ECE Curriculum Committee Meeting Minutes for February 11, 2010
Members present:
Tangul Basar,
Stephen Bishop,
Donna Brown,
Andreas Cangellaris,
Kent Choquette,
Erhan Kudeki,
Stephen Levinson,
Steven Lumetta,
Jonathan Makela,
Sean Meyn
Guests:
Charles Tucker, College of Engineering Associate Dean for Undergraduate Programs; Laura Hahn; Karen Hyman
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Dean Tucker began by describing some of the historical involvement of
the College of Engineering with teaching and curriculum enhancement,
then discussed the purpose of the current "core conversation" visits
to engineering departments (including some outside of CoE) and
undergraduate organizations as a complement to these earlier efforts.
His goal was to discuss a set of
ten points on engineering education;
these were distributed at the meeting. After the visits are complete,
his team will produce a summary of the themes that arose and convene
cross-departmental groups to determine what actions, if any, should
be taken.
We began with a discussion of the first point. There was disagreement
as to whether universal modes of thought existed and as to whether
the focus should be on complex concepts or on simple, motivational
ideas and approaches. Most agreed that the process of helping students
to gain confidence in their own ability and training is a slow one,
and that while most of us do make a conscious effort to help our
students to achieve this goal, they are often slow to warm to the idea
until they have had an opportunity to compare themselves with those
trained at other schools, for example in the context of an internship.
Most also agreed that becoming an engineer takes a significant personal
investment of effort, and that students must be encouraged to understand
and accept this need in order to succeed. Approaches that empower the
students to take charge of their own education, such as the MIT
(graduate) student seminar, seem promising. The idea of spending
student time on generic, domain-independent materials (as articulated
in point #1) was less well received.
Dean Tucker wanted to cover more than one point, and thus pushed
onward to the question of covering all material. Some fields are
now changing slowly, while others are still changing rapidly, and
thus see the need to constantly distill away superfluous information.
The general consensus of the ECE faculty seemed to be that we have
been, are currently, and plan to continue refining our core to meet
the evolving needs of our future alumni. It is up to us to help
the students differentiate the key concepts from the material added
for interest. Historical context and an understanding of how
engineering advances were also viewed as important.
Dean Tucker pointed out that our tuition is relatively high for
a public university. Andreas Cangellaris pointed out that the
state has failed to provide, and we are forced to view ourselves
as a national university, a prerogative of our reputation ranking
us amongst the world's finest. Dean Tucker agreed.
Steve Levinson pointed out that even if the points are valid,
a need for action is not necessarily implied. Quality, intensity,
and style vary widely from instructor to instructor, and students
can pick and choose to meet their needs and goals. Sean Meyn
commented that our dialogue was nonetheless useful.
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The Committee adjourned at 2:50 PM.
These Minutes created by S. Lumetta, February 11, 2010;
Last updated February 17, 2010